the election bared that out and passing the fiscal cliff and looks like we will have kind of another temporary crisis in the next month or three months, they again have to fight the stereotypes and label that is built up. >> one of those jumped out at me. maybe run it by you. for the democrats, the argument of don't offend gun owners and manners, you don't want to offend anybody needlessly, a voter or group. i get that. you point to the example of the 2000 election and say al gore lost maybe the presidency because of maybe gun ownership and so much the map changed that the votes to win a national election, to win statewide election for democrats now -- gore lost kentucky, missouri, wf w6, his ohm state of tennessee and where the gun issue's hurt him. those are republican states. democrats have taken a decade off on gun control and haven't made any headway with gun owners and still voting as reliably republican now than maybe more so. isn't the lesson it's okay to be easy on gun control? >> i don't think so. people that voting for president obama because of the auto bailout might have